Upland4Ever
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Just got my crp atlas and wow what a hit to the gut. I have lost all faith in our game and park. Our taxes are outa this word but yet we have less crp the 90% of pheasants states.
Nebraska's new CRP map.
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Missouri has more habitat in the Northwest pheasant corner than Nebraska does state wide. What's really scary,look at the DNR website and go to the Landowner contracts and compensation! They are spending a lot to try to attracted ground, 10.00, 25.00 etc per acre. somebody didn't believe me when I said Nebraska was paying $5.00 per acre on CRP a few years ago, better sit up straight in the chair,......but a lot of landowner reservations I guess.
SouthDakotaKid
New member
This is one of the reasons I am trying to get out of the state.
Upland4Ever
New member
Along with the ever going up taxes.
as long as crop price stay high and we push ethanol on people, farmers will get rid of crp to plant crops. That is just the nature of the beast living in the Midwest. It will be hard to get pheasant population back cause most ground is privately owned and the way farming as a whole has changed in the last 20 yrs, not many places for birds left to live.
It's on the web. price per acre, higher amount is premium CRP, wetlands( but not sandhill area), riparian woodland, for deer and turkey, ( every one's favorite!), drops down for lower grade habitat. Lots and Lots of waterfowl, Turkey, and Deer. Yahoo!
'Fraid I still don't follow. We are paid $324/acre/year from the Feds.
This an access program. for hunters and fishermen, has no relation to CRP payments, you can get those too! with this as an enhancement. So if you get $100 per acre CRP,you can voluntarily add the bid to the crp payment,and probably add in compensation for other acres as well.
I'm not so sure, maybe the pendulum is on the return swing. With calves at $1200/ head and corn at $3.25, grass looks better than grain.
small munsterlander owner
Banned
yes mcfarmer is on the ball thibgs are slowly changeing... but every state game agency has the same dyer reports pheasants are tuff but crp loss is our major concern with the high crop prices etc. corn is not as profitable as it was a few yrs ago hope the crp payments can compete??? with a shortage on cattle herds and beef prices going up hope the pheasants benifit from the changes...???
BRITTMAN
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Corn isn't so high right now. Many farmers will take a loss or little profit.
John Deere is already laying off workers because farmers will not have the surplus cash to buy new.
Those keeping a few acres in CRP will have a smile (smirk) on their face this fall ... especially if the area they farm was hit with untimely weather (too much, too little, etc). CRP pays no matter the weather pattern.
John Deere is already laying off workers because farmers will not have the surplus cash to buy new.
Those keeping a few acres in CRP will have a smile (smirk) on their face this fall ... especially if the area they farm was hit with untimely weather (too much, too little, etc). CRP pays no matter the weather pattern.
Trouble is I have some CRP coming out in 2016, it is getting a full 1/3 of the going cash rent it could be getting as farm ground.
Folks remember things like that.
Maybe shorter contracts would be an option, like five years and planted to alfalfa/grass. Could also go with a partial haying/grazing option after nesting.
Hobie1026
Active member
I know I should pay closer attention to these things, but I thought the new farm bill that was passed was supposed to bring the CRP payments up to encourage more enrollment?
Upland4Ever
New member
I'll be happy to have what I have to hunt. Long live upland hunters.
mnmthunting
Banned
Maybe with the low price for corn farmers will leave some of the hollows, corners and hard to farm areas go to weeds. :thumbsup:
BRITTMAN
Well-known member
I always remember all the auctions shown on the nightly news across the farm belt in the 80s. This was national news not just local.
Inflated land prices, higher fertilizer and fuel prices, low grain prices ... it is what started the CRP push in the first place.
Anyone buying land tied to high grain prices could be in a world of hurt.
It is a cyclical industry.
Inflated land prices, higher fertilizer and fuel prices, low grain prices ... it is what started the CRP push in the first place.
Anyone buying land tied to high grain prices could be in a world of hurt.
It is a cyclical industry.
double trigger
Member
Agreed. Folks have been saying things for a long time things will get worse- and they have. But as they say the only thing constant is change, and as McFarmer points out the pendulum is starting to swing a different direction.
One problem is that after a fellow gets out of the livestock business, has a taste of the other side, it is hard for them to go back. They will stick with corn until they just can't anymore.
These times will however slow the conversion of grass to crops. And some of these former grass lands, now crop ground, will now be eligible for CRP where they wouldn't have been before. So some may go that route.