I had a one time hunt with a war veteran years ago, figured he had some weapons and tactics experience anyway, and had a young son chomping at the bit. I figured what the heck. All day long we let them block draws, hunting pheasants, walk in on the points when in quail areas. No matter how many explanations we offered, these two would post somewhere other than planned, hiding behind a tree or other cover, so that the drivers had no idea where they were, and wouldn't dare shoot. On quail, they would refuse to flush, standing back and encourage the dogs forward, thankfully the dogs were broke and knew better, but left me to flush, and risk being sluiced by the newbies. Shot at a quail covey literally in the yard of a farmer friend, on the ground, running, both quail and men, through the kids playground equipment, while I was inside visiting, and humiliated. All these were mistakes of being green, but there was either no learning curve, or limited learning curve. It was to much for me, I now require a session of dog training/target shooting, and casual discussion of the way things are done, prior to an invite to a live hunting day.
The anti christ of upland bird hunting
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Bird Buster
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My #1 pet peeve is people that don't ask permission to hunt on private land, period. Over the years there seems to be some people that believe they have rights to anything regardless. I hunt NE a lot and the locals down there don't take kindly to out of staters as a result of the blatant trespassing. Sad as most would let you hunt if you asked them.
waggs
Member
My relatives.
Father in law wants to hunt in a big ass hurry. Still gotta take him a couple time a year.
Some how the places I take him never have the birds that were there just the other day.
Quik story; Been a few years but I took my cousin out who had been bugging me to take him. We go to a spot that should hold some birds in the late season.
We had been hunting about an hour with not much luck when the dog goes on point.
The bird flushes high and he shoots and makes a good kill, But the bird lands out in a frozen over pond about 50 to 75yrds out. The dog busts through the ice that was almost thick enough to support her. By the time she got to the bird I could tell she was not doing to well but she got the bird and started swimming back with it. About 10 yrds from shore she spit the bird out and came in with out it.
She was shaking bad, she sat down next to me and I knew she was in trouble. But my cousin In some kind of panic attack starts yelling at the dog to fetch.
I tell him to calm down, let the dog recover, That bird isn't going any where!
Thats when he says to me. IF THAT DOG DON"T GET THAT BIRD I"LL SHOOT HER!!!
I don't remember what I said but it wasn't very nice. I was seeing red, Wrapped the dog in my coat and carried her back to my truck and turned the heat on. (almost left him there)
Don't know how he fetched his bird, but he got it.
Father in law wants to hunt in a big ass hurry. Still gotta take him a couple time a year.
Some how the places I take him never have the birds that were there just the other day.
Quik story; Been a few years but I took my cousin out who had been bugging me to take him. We go to a spot that should hold some birds in the late season.
We had been hunting about an hour with not much luck when the dog goes on point.
The bird flushes high and he shoots and makes a good kill, But the bird lands out in a frozen over pond about 50 to 75yrds out. The dog busts through the ice that was almost thick enough to support her. By the time she got to the bird I could tell she was not doing to well but she got the bird and started swimming back with it. About 10 yrds from shore she spit the bird out and came in with out it.
She was shaking bad, she sat down next to me and I knew she was in trouble. But my cousin In some kind of panic attack starts yelling at the dog to fetch.
I tell him to calm down, let the dog recover, That bird isn't going any where!
Thats when he says to me. IF THAT DOG DON"T GET THAT BIRD I"LL SHOOT HER!!!
I don't remember what I said but it wasn't very nice. I was seeing red, Wrapped the dog in my coat and carried her back to my truck and turned the heat on. (almost left him there)
Don't know how he fetched his bird, but he got it.
My relatives.
Father in law wants to hunt in a big ass hurry. Still gotta take him a couple time a year.
Some how the places I take him never have the birds that were there just the other day.
Quik story; Been a few years but I took my cousin out who had been bugging me to take him. We go to a spot that should hold some birds in the late season.
We had been hunting about an hour with not much luck when the dog goes on point.
The bird flushes high and he shoots and makes a good kill, But the bird lands out in a frozen over pond about 50 to 75yrds out. The dog busts through the ice that was almost thick enough to support her. By the time she got to the bird I could tell she was not doing to well but she got the bird and started swimming back with it. About 10 yrds from shore she spit the bird out and came in with out it.
She was shaking bad, she sat down next to me and I knew she was in trouble. But my cousin In some kind of panic attack starts yelling at the dog to fetch.
I tell him to calm down, let the dog recover, That bird isn't going any where!
Thats when he says to me. IF THAT DOG DON"T GET THAT BIRD I"LL SHOOT HER!!!
I don't remember what I said but it wasn't very nice. I was seeing red, Wrapped the dog in my coat and carried her back to my truck and turned the heat on. (almost left him there)
Don't know how he fetched his bird, but he got it.
That man would have been walking home.................
kansasbrittany
Banned
grouchyolddude
New member
...and cold and wet!...YEP!! And most likely w/ a bloody nose
waggs
Member
Well Remember, He is a cousin. My mothers, sister precious baby boy.
I thought real hard on leaving him there thinking maybe after he figured out a way home from an hours drive he would learn to watch his mouth. But I also knew that I would never hear the end of it from the rest of the family.
Ya know that little bass terd had that bird mounted. Brags about it. When we going bird huntin again he asks. And I have been downright rude with him.
Noooo! I've told him, You threatend to shoot my dog. Its never gonna happen. Used words I can't say here, And many times with him. And still the little tard asks.
Like I said. Family, For me, the anti Christ of bird hunting!
I thought real hard on leaving him there thinking maybe after he figured out a way home from an hours drive he would learn to watch his mouth. But I also knew that I would never hear the end of it from the rest of the family.
Ya know that little bass terd had that bird mounted. Brags about it. When we going bird huntin again he asks. And I have been downright rude with him.
Noooo! I've told him, You threatend to shoot my dog. Its never gonna happen. Used words I can't say here, And many times with him. And still the little tard asks.
Like I said. Family, For me, the anti Christ of bird hunting!
wesslpointer
New member
I guess its true you can choose the Gun,dog,ammo,who and what you like to hunt just not "Family" you'd like to HUNT. Dam safety classes any way.Well Remember, He is a cousin. My mothers, sister precious baby boy.
I thought real hard on leaving him there thinking maybe after he figured out a way home from an hours drive he would learn to watch his mouth. But I also knew that I would never hear the end of it from the rest of the family.
Ya know that little bass terd had that bird mounted. Brags about it. When we going bird huntin again he asks. And I have been downright rude with him.
Noooo! I've told him, You threatend to shoot my dog. Its never gonna happen. Used words I can't say here, And many times with him. And still the little tard asks.
Like I said. Family, For me, the anti Christ of bird hunting!
320 acres of walk-in CRP and guys coming into the field and hunting straight towards me no matter how many times I change course to keep safe shooting distances. They walk you down just to ask if you have seen anything.
Guys who pull in just as you are getting ready to enter the field with your pointing dogs and then announce that they WILL be hunting the spot you were going to. If that isn't bad enough they tell you that they are going to form a big circle and turn a dozen beagles loose on the pheasants so you need to go "over there."
Jerks that shoot first and identify sex later.
Guys on public land that pull in behind you 5 minutes before shooting time even though there are plenty of places to park that aren't right on top of you and then limit out 5 yards from your car 3 minutes before legal hours.
Two guys with 10 uncontrolled Chessies that basically forced everybody else out of an 80 acre public field that was being hunted with plenty of space between hunting parties.
Guys who pull in just as you are getting ready to enter the field with your pointing dogs and then announce that they WILL be hunting the spot you were going to. If that isn't bad enough they tell you that they are going to form a big circle and turn a dozen beagles loose on the pheasants so you need to go "over there."
Jerks that shoot first and identify sex later.
Guys on public land that pull in behind you 5 minutes before shooting time even though there are plenty of places to park that aren't right on top of you and then limit out 5 yards from your car 3 minutes before legal hours.
Two guys with 10 uncontrolled Chessies that basically forced everybody else out of an 80 acre public field that was being hunted with plenty of space between hunting parties.
Ranger Rick
Member
The "former" best friend
I've got a buddy that about sums up most of my pet peeves. We schedule to go hunting on a Saturday morning and he shows up with not one, but two other guys. One of whom walks behind me through the woods and I find out later walks with his safety off - on purpose. That was a VERY short hunt.
During grouse hunts, the dog on point, he'd go stand next to the dog. The grouse cover we hunt is young aspen with balsam fir mixed. A good team will realize the bird will use the balsam as cover and therefore the need for a pincer move around said cover. Standing next to the dog gets no one any shooting. Otherwise he'd ignore the dog.
Another day he's with us and my younger brother. Wears camo head to toe. In the grouse woods that's NOT safe. Goes off half cocked pounding off through the brush and gets way out ahead of us. Down into a tag alder patch I can't wait to get into with the dog and then there's woodcock flying all over, with me hollering at him not to shoot 'cause he's likely to shoot at us. That's when I heeled the dog out of the woods. We waited for him to come out and then I let him have it. I gave him too many chances and now we don't hunt together any more. My brother says he's "one greenhorn son of a $@%&".
1. Lack of safety.
2. Lack of hunting ettiquette.
3. Totally ignorant and uninterested in learning how to team up with a good dog.
I've got a buddy that about sums up most of my pet peeves. We schedule to go hunting on a Saturday morning and he shows up with not one, but two other guys. One of whom walks behind me through the woods and I find out later walks with his safety off - on purpose. That was a VERY short hunt.
During grouse hunts, the dog on point, he'd go stand next to the dog. The grouse cover we hunt is young aspen with balsam fir mixed. A good team will realize the bird will use the balsam as cover and therefore the need for a pincer move around said cover. Standing next to the dog gets no one any shooting. Otherwise he'd ignore the dog.
Another day he's with us and my younger brother. Wears camo head to toe. In the grouse woods that's NOT safe. Goes off half cocked pounding off through the brush and gets way out ahead of us. Down into a tag alder patch I can't wait to get into with the dog and then there's woodcock flying all over, with me hollering at him not to shoot 'cause he's likely to shoot at us. That's when I heeled the dog out of the woods. We waited for him to come out and then I let him have it. I gave him too many chances and now we don't hunt together any more. My brother says he's "one greenhorn son of a $@%&".
1. Lack of safety.
2. Lack of hunting ettiquette.
3. Totally ignorant and uninterested in learning how to team up with a good dog.
BritChaser
Well-known member
One-time hunting party invitees include:
He who does not have field manners.
He who shoots YOUR bird after he's shot his limit.
He who has all the equipment and none of the sense of sportsmanship.
He who does not respect and trust the dog, and listen to its owner.
Oh, and the guy who is only your friend when bird season opens.
Yeah, bird season comes along and some guy you haven't heard from in a year is your good buddy now.
BritChaser
Well-known member
bon touche
Guys who don't pick up their empty hulls. When I go to SD I routinely run across blocking points at the end of fields where there are almost piles of empties. They're plastic and will never go away. It doesn't take much to at least give a cursory search for empties. It is always good manners to clean up after yourself.
bird shooter
Member
First off, I hunt with a very safety conscious group. Always a good thing. 2) Even with that we still talk over the safety rules each year. 3) Sometimes a good dog will get goofy and run too far ahead. We do not yell at each others dogs. Make a suggestion, yes. 4) My recent peeve is trying to locate the property owners written on the posted land signs. In North Dakota there are signs for posting the fields. On the signs are supposed to be plainly written the name and address of the land owner. We always call or visit the land owner asking for permission to hunt his property. Often the writing is missing although the sign is new or it is unreadable. We have read the NDGF booklet on posting land and it clearly states that the name and address must be clear to read. If it not ledgable it is not posted. I do not tresspass, but it is very frustrating trying to find the owners to try to get permission to hunt. I love hunting in ND. The people are friendly. Our access to hunting is much better once we can talk to the land owners. I wish that the land owners would take the time to clearly write their name and address on their signage.
Bird shooter you might try to get a plat map and directory from www.farmandhomepublishers.com. They cover much of eastern ND and will tell you who owns the land. It is not perfect but it should help.
bird shooter
Member
Thanks, I will look up that resource. Good suggestions.
Gove County Britts
New member
I use plat mapes around here every year they work great and save alot of time and trouble as I also mark out specific areas to hunt in them and they are color coded as to how good they produced the year before and in the front of the books here are the numbers and adreses of the lnd owners
BrowningCitori
Member
Yes
I think it the editor of pointing dog journal, that mentioned people like this calling him up. Sometimes on there way to hunt and wanting advice from him on where to hunt. His response was priceless, "what you wait until now to call me...........click!"
Life is to short to hunt with jerks.
I think it the editor of pointing dog journal, that mentioned people like this calling him up. Sometimes on there way to hunt and wanting advice from him on where to hunt. His response was priceless, "what you wait until now to call me...........click!"
Life is to short to hunt with jerks.
How about asking everyone to take a 30 minute break so his girl friend could run into town to get a hunting lisence (because this hunting thing was kinda fun) and oh BTW does anyone have a spare gun she could borrow.
NO we did not wait, we left right after they headed to town and went to land belonging to another hunter in our party that was unknown to them and yes they got the message.
All I can say is "WOW" !!!!